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		<title>By: Eko Budi Rahardjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eko Budi Rahardjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an english teacher at National Plus School. I need the criteria of Debate Assessment. Would you like to help me ? 
I look forward to having your reply soon.
Thanks
Mr. Budi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an english teacher at National Plus School. I need the criteria of Debate Assessment. Would you like to help me ?<br />
I look forward to having your reply soon.<br />
Thanks<br />
Mr. Budi</p>
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		<title>By: David Warlick</title>
		<link>http://blog.brettmoller.com/2005/09/26/blogging-as-assesment/comment-page-1/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>David Warlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the concept of using a blog as workspace for assessment.  You still have to do the rubric.  I like Jo&#039;s suggestion about having students contribute to the assessment standards.  There is a school in NYC, where all assignments must be turned in digitally.  There, teachers assess work based on two criteria, Content (it&#039;s accuracy, appropriateness to the assignment, and clarity), and presentation (compellingness of the argument).  You might as students to rank each others blog arguments based on compellingness.

Just some ideas.  A great concept.

-- dave --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the concept of using a blog as workspace for assessment.  You still have to do the rubric.  I like Jo&#8217;s suggestion about having students contribute to the assessment standards.  There is a school in NYC, where all assignments must be turned in digitally.  There, teachers assess work based on two criteria, Content (it&#8217;s accuracy, appropriateness to the assignment, and clarity), and presentation (compellingness of the argument).  You might as students to rank each others blog arguments based on compellingness.</p>
<p>Just some ideas.  A great concept.</p>
<p>&#8211; dave &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Jo McLeay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo McLeay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on a roll now! Found this as well:
http://www.teachandlearn.ca/blog/2005/06/12/48/
cheers
Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on a roll now! Found this as well:<br />
<a href="http://www.teachandlearn.ca/blog/2005/06/12/48/" rel="nofollow">http://www.teachandlearn.ca/blog/2005/06/12/48/</a><br />
cheers<br />
Jo</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Maas</title>
		<link>http://blog.brettmoller.com/2005/09/26/blogging-as-assesment/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Maas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brett,

This is a great idea and I&#039;m glad to see that you are using the blog to assess their understanding of the issues presented in your classroom.  As the previous poster suggested, I&#039;d set the criteria with the kids before you begin.  In class, give an overview of the blogging assignment.  Afterward, pose the question &quot;What do you think would make a great blog for this class?&quot;  On the board or overhead, list any/all suggestions made by kids.  After a dozen or so criteria, work with the kids to categorize their criteria under different headings based on their similarities.  For example, suggestions &quot;interesting blog topics&quot;, &quot;well-argued positions&quot;, and &quot;blog topics relate to class topics&quot; might fall under the larger category of &quot;Blog Content&quot; (may be a bad example but you get the idea).  What begins as a dozen or so specific criteria by kids ends up as 3 or 4 larger main criteria.  From here, you can even crite up a rough rubric on the spot showing 3 or 4 levels of achievement or create a checklist of the 4 criteria with a description of each.

This may take an hour or so just to generate the criteria and rubric, but I strongly suggest that the kids will have a much greater idea of what is expected of them in doing so.  After doing this project for the term, collect sample blog postings at different levels of achievement so kids can see exemplars of what to do (and what not to do) so your next-year students can actually see the difference between excellent blog postings and poor blog postings across your different criteria.

You&#039;d be wise to take a few minutes yourself to generate a list of criteria that are important for you in this project, just in case the kids miss something and you want to throw in an extra criteria on the list.  You&#039;d be surprised, however, to see how accurate the kids will be in generating this list of criteria.  In addition to the content/debate format criteria, I recommend including a section on &#039;blogging etiquette&#039; or &#039;appriopriateness&#039; or something relating to the fact that kids will be debating with each other without personally attacking each other or being rude.

I can&#039;t wait to see how this shakes down Brett.  I&#039;ll be sure to stay tuned :)

A friend pointed out a great free blogging service that more teachers are using, called www.21publish.com .   It would allow you to create a blog for each class, then allow you to create blogs within that class blog for each student.  Students would log in, and you could set privileges as to who is able to both see blog postings and comment to postings.  This would help to increase student privacy while still allowing them to post detailed entries.  Like Blogger, it allows students to upload photos, create links, etc.  Check it out.

All the best in this!
Danny Maas
TILT - Teachers Improving Learning with Technology
http://tilttv.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brett,</p>
<p>This is a great idea and I&#8217;m glad to see that you are using the blog to assess their understanding of the issues presented in your classroom.  As the previous poster suggested, I&#8217;d set the criteria with the kids before you begin.  In class, give an overview of the blogging assignment.  Afterward, pose the question &#8220;What do you think would make a great blog for this class?&#8221;  On the board or overhead, list any/all suggestions made by kids.  After a dozen or so criteria, work with the kids to categorize their criteria under different headings based on their similarities.  For example, suggestions &#8220;interesting blog topics&#8221;, &#8220;well-argued positions&#8221;, and &#8220;blog topics relate to class topics&#8221; might fall under the larger category of &#8220;Blog Content&#8221; (may be a bad example but you get the idea).  What begins as a dozen or so specific criteria by kids ends up as 3 or 4 larger main criteria.  From here, you can even crite up a rough rubric on the spot showing 3 or 4 levels of achievement or create a checklist of the 4 criteria with a description of each.</p>
<p>This may take an hour or so just to generate the criteria and rubric, but I strongly suggest that the kids will have a much greater idea of what is expected of them in doing so.  After doing this project for the term, collect sample blog postings at different levels of achievement so kids can see exemplars of what to do (and what not to do) so your next-year students can actually see the difference between excellent blog postings and poor blog postings across your different criteria.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d be wise to take a few minutes yourself to generate a list of criteria that are important for you in this project, just in case the kids miss something and you want to throw in an extra criteria on the list.  You&#8217;d be surprised, however, to see how accurate the kids will be in generating this list of criteria.  In addition to the content/debate format criteria, I recommend including a section on &#8216;blogging etiquette&#8217; or &#8216;appriopriateness&#8217; or something relating to the fact that kids will be debating with each other without personally attacking each other or being rude.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait to see how this shakes down Brett.  I&#8217;ll be sure to stay tuned <img src='http://blog.brettmoller.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A friend pointed out a great free blogging service that more teachers are using, called <a href="http://www.21publish.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.21publish.com</a> .   It would allow you to create a blog for each class, then allow you to create blogs within that class blog for each student.  Students would log in, and you could set privileges as to who is able to both see blog postings and comment to postings.  This would help to increase student privacy while still allowing them to post detailed entries.  Like Blogger, it allows students to upload photos, create links, etc.  Check it out.</p>
<p>All the best in this!<br />
Danny Maas<br />
TILT &#8211; Teachers Improving Learning with Technology<br />
<a href="http://tilttv.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://tilttv.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jo McLeay</title>
		<link>http://blog.brettmoller.com/2005/09/26/blogging-as-assesment/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo McLeay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 07:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett,
Hi, 
it is an interesting idea to assess the blogs. I guess there would be two schools of thought on that. I decided to have the students use the blogs to help with their metacognition and didn&#039;t assess them. Instead I assessed another piece of work. But if you want to assess the blogs why not open it up to the students to work out how they should be assessed. You might be surprised what they come up with. When I did this I had to keep saying but how am I going to evaluate that? I also incorporated some self assesment. Here are some other people talking about a similar thing:
http://remoteaccess.typepad.com/remote_access/2005/09/is_msnish_a_lan.html#comments
btw my students are in Year 9 and 10 so that might make a difference

I posted about it here: http://theopenclassroom.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-day-at-chalkface.html and on the next day as well
anyway cheers
Hope these are helpful comments.
Love your work
Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett,<br />
Hi,<br />
it is an interesting idea to assess the blogs. I guess there would be two schools of thought on that. I decided to have the students use the blogs to help with their metacognition and didn&#8217;t assess them. Instead I assessed another piece of work. But if you want to assess the blogs why not open it up to the students to work out how they should be assessed. You might be surprised what they come up with. When I did this I had to keep saying but how am I going to evaluate that? I also incorporated some self assesment. Here are some other people talking about a similar thing:<br />
<a href="http://remoteaccess.typepad.com/remote_access/2005/09/is_msnish_a_lan.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://remoteaccess.typepad.com/remote_access/2005/09/is_msnish_a_lan.html#comments</a><br />
btw my students are in Year 9 and 10 so that might make a difference</p>
<p>I posted about it here: <a href="http://theopenclassroom.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-day-at-chalkface.html" rel="nofollow">http://theopenclassroom.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-day-at-chalkface.html</a> and on the next day as well<br />
anyway cheers<br />
Hope these are helpful comments.<br />
Love your work<br />
Jo</p>
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