Comments on: James Farmer Founder of EduBlogs Education AU Seminar (Post 4) http://blog.brettmoller.com/2006/08/03/james-farmer-founder-of-edublogs-education-au-seminar-post-4/ Technology Resources for Educators Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:25:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Bretthttp://blog.brettmoller.com/2006/08/03/james-farmer-founder-of-edublogs-education-au-seminar-post-4/#comment-176 Brett Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:13:27 +0000 http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=142#comment-176 Hi Jane,I would suggest you have a listen to his presentation. http://eduauweb2.edublogs.org/2006/08/04/podcast3-james-farmer-engaging-and-empowering/I understand your points here.... however, your example of using texts is probably something that I don't think James would argue. The human element he addressed is taken away when we try and use technology to replace everything. I haven't personaly used blackboard, but I think we need to be careful what we think the technology can do for students learning. Teachers do use technology in a way that creates poor pedagogy. If you throw your students in front of a computer and send them on their way that is rubbish teaching. That is the cop out. The technology is a tool to enhance teaching and many teachers are using it as a tool to replace the hard work aspect of teaching. When a mass comercial product is marketed to the education market it's number one sell is "Makes the teacher's life easier." There is nothing wrong with a product delivering on that promise.... However, we need to be extra cautious of falling into the "slack" mode.I think this was James' point. We need to be careful, that we don't let teacher's use technology to replace the hard yards of good pedagogy. Hi Jane,

I would suggest you have a listen to his presentation. http://eduauweb2.edublogs.org/2006/08/04/podcast3-james-farmer-engaging-and-empowering/

I understand your points here…. however, your example of using texts is probably something that I don’t think James would argue. The human element he addressed is taken away when we try and use technology to replace everything. I haven’t personaly used blackboard, but I think we need to be careful what we think the technology can do for students learning. Teachers do use technology in a way that creates poor pedagogy. If you throw your students in front of a computer and send them on their way that is rubbish teaching. That is the cop out. The technology is a tool to enhance teaching and many teachers are using it as a tool to replace the hard work aspect of teaching. When a mass comercial product is marketed to the education market it’s number one sell is “Makes the teacher’s life easier.” There is nothing wrong with a product delivering on that promise…. However, we need to be extra cautious of falling into the “slack” mode.

I think this was James’ point. We need to be careful, that we don’t let teacher’s use technology to replace the hard yards of good pedagogy.

]]> By: CBL-Jane Arnotthttp://blog.brettmoller.com/2006/08/03/james-farmer-founder-of-edublogs-education-au-seminar-post-4/#comment-175 CBL-Jane Arnott Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:59:31 +0000 http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=142#comment-175 The human element, the social interaction must be present. So pedagogy must be reviewed with every new "tool" that is invented for education. From the brief account of Farmers argument I am not sure of his point. Is he suggestiong that Technology is replacing the human element? Because if as a teacher (human element) I simply had a text book to give to the students and said read that and complete a question sheet. Why would that be any different to using Blackboard? In fact Blackboard creates support systems, i.e. chats and forums. Blaming technology for poor pedagogy I believe is a cop-out. Or have I have read his points wrongly? That stirs the belly! The human element, the social interaction must be present. So pedagogy must be reviewed with every new “tool” that is invented for education. From the brief account of Farmers argument I am not sure of his point. Is he suggestiong that Technology is replacing the human element?
Because if as a teacher (human element) I simply had a text book to give to the students and said read that and complete a question sheet. Why would that be any different to using Blackboard? In fact Blackboard creates support systems, i.e. chats and forums.
Blaming technology for poor pedagogy I believe is a cop-out.
Or have I have read his points wrongly?
That stirs the belly!

]]> By: Bretthttp://blog.brettmoller.com/2006/08/03/james-farmer-founder-of-edublogs-education-au-seminar-post-4/#comment-174 Brett Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:07:34 +0000 http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=142#comment-174 I am still here live at the conference... I will pose this question during question time later this afternoon... Stay tuned!! I am still here live at the conference… I will pose this question during question time later this afternoon… Stay tuned!!

]]> By: TheBizofKnowledgehttp://blog.brettmoller.com/2006/08/03/james-farmer-founder-of-edublogs-education-au-seminar-post-4/#comment-173 TheBizofKnowledge Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:24:13 +0000 http://blog.brettmoller.com/?p=142#comment-173 I came across your site while I was browsing through Technorati this evening. I wanted to ask you if you could post some more information about why James Farmer thinks the Blackboard delivery system is so bad, and what kind of method he thinks should supplant BB? He says part of the problem is "not focusing on teaching and learning..." Isn't that pretty much an obstacle to all online class formats? The focus shouldn't be on the delivery method to begin with, but what the instructor and student do with the information after they give or receive it. I came across your site while I was browsing through Technorati this evening. I wanted to ask you if you could post some more information about why James Farmer thinks the Blackboard delivery system is so bad, and what kind of method he thinks should supplant BB? He says part of the problem is “not focusing on teaching and learning…” Isn’t that pretty much an obstacle to all online class formats? The focus shouldn’t be on the delivery method to begin with, but what the instructor and student do with the information after they give or receive it.

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